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Co-Main Event Podcast Episode 20 (10/2/12)

The Co-Main Event Podcast reaches another milestone this week, as episode No. 20 drops like Bob Sapp after a CroCop left hand. By which we mean, it gets hit, takes a second to think things over and then curls up on the mat in tears. With one heavyweight main event in the books (Stefan Struve vs. Stipe Miocic) and one on deck for this weekend (Travis Browne vs. Bigfoot Silva) Ben and Chad take a gander at the state of the 265-pound division at large, discuss the prospects of last Saturday’s big winners and attempt to parse out the future of the UFC’s international expansion plans. Not to mention, a good deal of talk about both Gunnars Nelson as well as the first ever cliffhanger ending in the history of the CME.

All that, plus a supersized installment of listener mail, AYFKM and Just Sayin’ Stuff. Here comes the boom, you guys.

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Co-Main Event Podcast Episode 19 (9/25/12)

Well, if this isn’t the longest CME Podcast yet, it’s got to be damned close. Ben and Chad kill 72-plus minutes discussing this week’s plethora of MMA-related news. Among the personalities your dudes put under their co-microscope this time around are Jon Jones, Vitor Belfort, Michael Bisping, Demetrious Johnson, those weirdoes who booed the flyweight title fight, Showtime executives, Kevin James, Josh Koscheck and “Ghetto Man” Joe Charles. In response to pitched public outcry — mostly, we assume, from members of the Longstock family — Sir Nigel also returns to MC the most competitive round of MasterTweet Theatre ever.

Plus, listener mail, AYFKM and Just Sayin’ Stuff. So, you know, you can see how things got out of hand.

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Co-Main Event Podcast Episode 18 (9/18/12)

So here it is in all its glory. Episode 18 of the Co-Main Event Podcast may hit the airwaves 24 hours (or so) later than usual because Ben had to go party in California all weekend, but here it is nonetheless. On this week’s installment, your co-hosts puzzle over Anderson Silva’s UFC 153 main event fight against Stephan Bonnar, break down a couple of the forgotten fights coming our way this weekend at UFC 152 and discuss the politics behind the UFC buying Jon Jones a Bentley. Among other things, Ben and Chad talk about what it means to be a dairy commodities trader and how only 947,000 people could tune in to a show — any show, really — that at least in theory airs on nationwide TV.

All that plus Just Sayin’ Stuff and AYFKM. Hey, better late than never, right?

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Co-Main Event Podcast Episode 17 (9/11/12)

Ben and Chad feel pretty confident that the Co-Main Event is the first podcast in history to namecheck Scott Coker, Paul McCartney and Marcus Aurelius in a single episode. Not to brag, but that gives you at least some idea as to the breadth of topics taken on during week 17. Thanks in large part to Chad’s daughter making a very timely first appearance on planet earth last week, the dudes were able to crank this episode out as scheduled and the results are scintillating. Amid a discussion of whether Brock Lesnar belongs in the UFC (or any) hall of fame, if a win for Vitor Belfort would be the best thing to happen to UFC 152 and if anything can save “The Ultimate Fighter” at this point, everybody learned some valuable lessons.

Well, except Sir Nigel Longstock, but theatricalists are known for their mulishness.

Listen to it. You might enjoy it.

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Co-Main Event Podcast Episode 16 (9/3/12)

The Co-Main Event Podcast had to strike while the iron was hot this week, and by that terrible cliché we mean “hot” as in before Chad’s wife up and started giving birth. As a result, episode 16 comes to you a day early, bringing with it an hour and 10 minutes of talk about the odds and ends of MMA news that broke during a week that should’ve culminated in UFC 151, but didn’t. In that event’s stead, Ben and Chad break down the “controversy” surrounding Tim Sylvia and Andrei Arlovski fighting to a no contest at OneFC, Georges St. Pierre announcing his comeback from a knee injury and Frankie Edgar finally decamping for the featherweight division.

Along the way, your dudes discuss their ideal MMA broadcast teams, hem and haw about the legacy of Chuck Liddell and try to remember Lorenz Larkin’s name. It comes to them. Eventually. If you stick around long enough you might even get to hear about where each co-host lost his virginity.

God, we wish we were kidding about that last part.

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Co-Main Event Podcast Episode 15 (8/28/12)

We know what you’re thinking: If only you could find a couple dudes willing to spend another hour of everyone’s lives talking about a UFC 151 card that will never happen, right? Good news, wishful thinker, this week the Co-Main Event Podcast devotes damn near an entire episode to – English nerd buzzword alert! – deconstructing this very topic. Along the way Ben and Chad analyze Jon Jones’ inexplicable decision to refuse a short notice bout with Chael P. Sonnen, expound on why Bones still isn’t to blame for the cancelation of the entire fight card and wonder aloud how/why in the wake of this madness matchmakers could just keep hitting the middleweight piñata until Vitor Belfort dropped out like so much candy.

Plus, the return of Sir Nigel Longstock and Master Tweet Theatre as well as Just Sayin’ Stuff. Not going to lie, episode 15 is a blockbuster.

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Co-Main Event Podcast Episode 14 (8/21/12)

After a week of buildup and anticipation the CME presents its first ever listener controlled episode. You asked the questions, so Ben and Chad endeavor to answer them. Well, some of them. As many of them as possible. Turns out, the tagline “All Questions Answered” doesn’t really fit after all, since the dudes received way, way too many questions this week to give voice to all of them. A better moniker would have been “Some Questions Answered” or more specifically “Approximately 40 Percent of Questions Answered.” Anyhoo, it’s the podcast’s fastest-paced and most lively episode yet as the guys jump from topic to topic like Ric Flair when he’s had one too many vodka cranberry at the Holiday Inn bar after the show.

Next week, the CME returns to normal to preview UFC 151. This week, we put ourselves in your hands, dear listener … see what happens?

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Co-Main Event Podcast Episode 13 (8/14/12)

Episode 13 of the Co-Main Event Podcast starts like a house of fire and slowly devolves into finger-pointing, as Chad calls Ben on his latent sexism and Ben responds by accusing Chad of subtle xenophobia. In the baseless and childish nature of both, these claims do not necessarily differentiate this installment of the CME from any other, except that it could be more fun. In addition to the mudslinging, Ben discusses his decision this week to leave one job for another and the guys recap UFC 150 while looking forward to the coming weekend’s Strikeforce show.

Amid all the confusion, they also find time to make another exciting announcement about a groundbreaking innovation for next week’s show. Seriously, listen to it; you’ll be glad you did.

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Co-Main Event Podcast Episode 12 (8/7/12)

Important things to know about this week’s CME Podcast: First, Chad busts out his Don Frye impression. Second, Ben wonders what it would take to get Lyoto Machida and Shogun Rua to show up to a bench press competition at the Missoula YMCA. Third, one of your humble co-hosts — and he shall remain nameless for now — totally goes after the teenage girl who represented Saudi Arabia in Olympic judo this week. Oh yeah, your dudes also break down UFC on Fox 4, discuss the utter weirdness of the UFC’s four-man race for the next 205-pound title shot and look ahead to Saturday’s UFC 150.

Plus, Tips for the Well-Rounded Fight Fan, AYFKM and Just Sayin’ Stuff.

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For Whom the Em Tolls: The sound of impending doom for fighters in the UFC

[Ed. Note: The following is the grand prize winner in the CME’s White Elephant Essay Contest. Thanks to all those who entered and, even if you didn’t, thanks for your continued support of the Co-Main Event.]

By Brendan F. from West Roxbury, Mass. (@CursedDiamonds)

The Eminem Curse is real, and it is spectacular. An Eminem song during a fighter’s walkout is the surest indicator of failure in the modern UFC. In the last two years of UFC action, fighters that chose an Eminem song as their walkout music lost, lost, and lost some more. The fighter may have been a favorite or he may have been an underdog, it didn’t seem to matter; he tasted defeat regardless of betting odds. (While it was more often than not an underdog who selected Eminem as their traveling song, favorites lost with Eminem as well.) On rare occasions, a few charmed gladiators have defied the Curse, but those victories proved to be short-lived. Like all dominant champions, the Curse struck back in devastating fashion against these few victors, and handed them crushing defeats when they tried to tempt the fates twice. A few smart fighters have learned how to sidestep this Curse, using songs that merely feature Eminem, but with someone else as the primary artist. Those fighters have chosen wisely, and are currently undefeated when using those songs.

At UFC 115, Chuck Liddell entered the Octagon to the Eminem track “Won’t Back Down,” but he never even made it out of the first round. Rich Franklin ushered in the Eminem Curse with a crushing straight right hand, and the Curse was born. It didn’t wait long before striking again. The very next UFC, Kurt Pellegrino was “Not Afraid,” but unfortunately for him, he was also not a match for this opponent. George Sotiropoulos and his Black Sabbath intro got the W. Shane Carwin, Cole Escovedo, Mike Massenzio (twice), Jake Ellenberger, even Big Foot Silva tasted defeat after entering the cage, accompanied by the Eminem death knell. In the last two years, fighters using Eminem walkouts have won two fights, and lost 14. Even the eternally over-matched Sean Salmon has managed more than two victories in this last 16 fights. (Salmon is 3-13 in his last 16.)

The Curse truly flexes its MMA muscle when considering the two fighters who overcame the Curse, even if only temporarily. Tito Ortiz and Brendan Schaub, give yourselves a hand! At UFCs 128 and 132, Schaub and Ortiz both snatched victory from sure defeat, with Schaub dispatching Cro-Cop and Tito finishing Ryan Bader. Hindsight shows us that these fighters knew not how lucky they really were. They both doubled down, and kept the same music for their next battles. The Curse exploded in Schaub’s face in Brazil via some Big Nog fisticuffs, and Ortiz paid the price with his entire body more than once, getting punished by Rashad Evans and the Little Nog in successive fights. Adding insult to injury, the Curse ended Tito’s career in rather embarrassing fashion, with a fleeing, seemingly defeated Forrest Griffin getting the edge over Tito and his ill-chosen walkout music one last time. You can beat the Curse, but do not dare to try beating it twice.

UFC 139 and UFC on Fuel TV 4 showed us that you can indeed have some Eminem in your walkout music and still avoid the Curse. However, the song may only feature Mr. Mathers and not have him as the star of the song (think Nate Dogg, may he rest in peace). Alexander Gustafsson and Seth Baczynski each found that “Drop The World,” a Lil Wayne joint featuring Eminem had no negative effects on their chances. Both men cruised to victory after entering to that song, with Seth putting Matt Brown to sleep and Gustafsson ruining any remaining title hopes Thiago Silva ever had via unanimous destruction.

The lessons of the Eminem Walkout Curse are simple and direct. If you select Eminem to accompany you to the Octagon, you will almost assuredly lose. Should you somehow pull off the highly improbable and win under such a scenario, thank your lucky stars and never try to do it again, because the Curse will smash you with a ruthless fury when given a second (and third, and fourth) chance. The Eminem Curse is neutralized, possibly reversed when Eminem gets the Nate Dogg slot, but the Curse isn’t about being a Featured Artist. How or why it works are not for me to say, but the evidence shows quite clearly that the Eminem Walkout Curse is real, it is powerful, and it is vengeful. An Eminem song during a fighter’s walkout is the surest indicator of fighter failure in the modern UFC.

Supplemental Data

odds, fighter, walkout track and artist
odds, fighter, walkout track and artist
Winner, Round, Manner of Victory

UFC 115
-121 Chuck Liddell: “Won’t Back Down” by Eminem (feat. Pink)
+110 Rich Franklin: “For Those About to Rock” by AC/DC
Franklin, R1 KO/TKO

UFC 116
-154 George Sotiropoulos: “Iron Man” by Black Sabbath
+139 Kurt Pellegrino: “Not Afraid” by Eminem
Sotiropoulos, UD

UFC 121
-170 Matt Hamill: “I Want it All” by Queen
+153 Tito Ortiz: “Mosh” by Eminem
Hamill, UD

UFC 128
-274 Brendan Schaub: “Square Dance” by Eminem
+220 Mirko Cro Cop: “The Ecstasy of Gold (L’Estasi dell’Oro)” by Ennio Morricone
Shaub, R3 KO/TKO

UFC 131
-154 Junior Dos Santos: “Gonna Fly Now” by Bill Conti Gonna Fly Now
+139 Shane Carwin: “Till I Collapse” by Eminem
Dos Santos, UD

UFC 132
+451 Tito Ortiz: “Not Afraid” by Eminem
-536 Ryan Bader: “99 Problems” by Hugo
Ortiz, R1 Sub

UFC 133
-363 Rashad Evans: “Victory” by The Notorious B.I.G.
+335 Tito Ortiz: “Cinderella Man” by Eminem
Evans, R2 KO/TKO

UFC 134
+221 Minotauro Nogueira: “Come With Me” by Puff Daddy
-248 Brendan Schaub: “Square Dance” by Eminem
Nogueira, R1 KO/TKO

-183 Jake Ellenberger: “Till I Collapse” by Eminem & Nate Dogg
+165 Martin Kampmann: “It’s a Fight” by Three 6 Mafia

UFC 135
+191 Cole Escovedo: “Won’t Back Down” by Eminem
-213 Takeya Mizugaki: “Numb” by Linkin Park
Mizugaki, KO/TKO

UFC 139
+105 Seth Baczynski – “Drop the World” by Lil Wayne & Eminem
-135 Matt Brown – “I’d Love to Knock the Hell out of You” by Hank Williams, Jr
Baczynski, R2 Sub.

UFC 140
-278 Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira – “Come With Me” by Puff Daddy
+246 Tito Ortiz – “Cinderella Man” by Eminem
Nogueira, R1 KO/TKO

UFC 142
+451 Mike Massenzio: “Lose Yourself” by Eminem
-536 Rousimar Palhares: ???
Palhares, R1 Sub

-260 Thiago Silva: “Ratamahatta” by Sepultura
+231 Alexander Gustafsson: “Drop The World” by Lil Wayne & Eminem
Gustafsson, UD

UFC on FOX 3
-130 Mike Massenzio: “Rabbit Run” by Eminem
+118 Karlos Vemola: “Terminator Theme”
Vemola, R2 Sub

UFC 146
-401 Cain Velasquez: “Los Mandados” by Vicente Fernandez
+346 Antonio Silva: “Lose Yourself” by Eminem
Velasquez, R1 KO/TKO

-125 Joey Gambino: “Cinderella Man” by Eminem
+113 Steven Siler: “In the Air Tonight” by Nonpoint
Siler, R1 Sub

UFC 148
-308 Forrest Griffin: “Shipping Up to Boston” by Dropkick Murphys
+271 Tito Ortiz: “Mosh” by Eminem
Griffin, UD

**It has been reported that Mitch Gagnon entered the Octogon this weekend to Eminem, with the expected result, but are unable to confirm with solid documentation at this time.

UFC 149
+206 Mitch Gagnon
-231 Bryan Caraway
Carraway, R3 Sub



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A final word: Despite the great advances in media coverage and statistical analysis in MMA the last few years, our knowledge of fighter walkout music remains incomplete. Not every entrance gets broadcast, and many that are can never be rebroadcast due to rights issues. We cannot say with surety that the above list is a complete one, but it reflects the best knowledge available at this time.